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    "Light, or Salvation"...The Redlake School Massacre

    Posted by Steve Huff on March 22, 2005 11:07 PM (See all posts by Steve Huff)
    Filed under: Culture, Culture/Tech: Internet, Politics: Law - Scroll down to read comments on this story and/or add one of your own.

    Rampage: The Social Roots of School Shootings
    Katherine S. Newman
    Book from Basic Books
    Release date: 03 February, 2004

    Links added 3/23/05:

    • The Smoking Gun found Jeff Weise's flash animation "smoking gun."
    • Here's a direct link to the flash animation Jeff posted - a movie by 'Regret', Jeff Weise.
    • A post by Jeff at
    • Further interesting posts by Jeff Weise at a paranormal forum, [Link 1, Link 2, Link 3]. Thanks to the person who e-mailed the "tip"'s a quote from the post found at "Link 2" - a post Jeff Weise made in December of 2003:
      "...Lately I've been having some really strange dream's, they seem very realistic and filled with colour and sound's, they really are more realistic than dream's from like last month, but a few night's ago I had this dream where I saw this very evil, very creepy canine's face coming toward's me, and I heard someone say "Shoot!," either way everything went black and I could feel my whole body jerking and shaking, and while this was happening I could hear very loud and very distinct gunshot's, mostly machine gun fire... I found it very weird and woke up immediately after feeling a little disoriented..." ~ emphasis mine - S.H.

    In addition to postings on websites associated with certain "hate groups" (link takes you to a Newswire story about Weise and those websites), Jeff Weise, the 17-year-old school shooter from Redlake, Minnesota, had a Livejournal.Thoughts of a Dreamer. [Google news search for Jeff Weise]. It appears that yesterday, March 21, 2005, Jeff killed his grandparents, then took his grandfather's police cruiser and police-issued weapons to his school, where he killed 7 others - 5 students, 2 staff members, and ultimately, himself.

    If LJ remains true to form, they will do what they did after it was discovered Rachelle Waterman, the Alaska honor student who plotted the murder of her mom Lori, had a LiveJournal [Google Search], and yank the thing, so go now.


    January 27, 2005

    "...I'm living every mans nightmare and that single fact alone is kicking my ass, I really must be fucking worthless. This place never changes, it never will. Fuck it all..."

    January 4, 2005

    "...The instrument of my resurrection was supposed to be freedom. But there isnt an open sky or endless field to be found where I reside, nor is there light or salvation to be discovered..."

    If you look at the user info page you'll see Jeff's choice quote - the quote many choose to sum up who they think they are, "Liberate your mind, bitch."

    It's only a few entries, but already the LJ pile-on has begun (LiveJournal disabled the comments - 3/23/05). That's when other Livejournalers discover an infamous journalist among their number and immediately begin the barrage of pithy, pissy, angry, sick commentary.

    Or just odd comments, like the following by 'anonymous' (again, comments disabled by LJ, 3/23/05):

    "...In part, I feel more pity for you, Weise, in comparison with the victims whose lives you took, along with your own. People are ignorant, and it takes more than willpower to overcome. It takes a message. Something that people will relate to. Something that will open minds to different points of view. Something that brings about change. I hope your journey was not in vain. Perhaps something positive will come about this, instead of the usual media blaming it on violence in society. Perhaps people will feel more sympathetic and realize your ideals, instead of ignorantly stereotpying (sic) them. Perhaps you will have brought about a change. Perhaps..."

    Okay. It's probably good that person was anonymous, because multiple readings of the comment only serve to underscore the idea that the writer was a bit disturbed in their own right.

    Reading some of these comments it's hard to not recall what I was feeling when posting actively on BTK Strangler-related [Google search] message boards; such things can attract people every bit as twisted and hollowed-out as the subject of the board, or in this case, the joural-writer.

    I wasn't going to write about this case, as to me it was another sad brick in a wall. It becomes less of a surprise all the time that nowadays more angry teens seem to go ahead and make that leap into unfettered homicidal violence. The added feature of Weise having, as is characteristic of many murderous teens lately, an online presence, was enough to make me pay closer attention.

    What struck me in writing this entry though was the correlation I saw between Jeff Weise and Rachelle Waterman. Something about smart kids, teens, in out-of-the-way, wintry places. Redlake Minnesota is not far from the Canadian border, a famously wintry area, and Waterman's home in Craig Alaska was similar...small, isolated, snowbound. It almost feels like the isolation eats it's way into the souls of these kids, souls that were probably already more hollowed-out than not, and renders within a permanent, living sense of purgatory. Weise, for his part, acted out the mass-murderer's typical ritual; most mass killings of this type are suicides by angry males. They have simply decided to settle scores and/or make statements before they go. Waterman felt the answer was probably matricide - the removal of her mother as a perceived controlling factor would bring her a sense of freedom.

    Jeff Weise's words seem the most appropriate to end with though. His acts, and the acts of the other teens who make the news this way, are ultimately testimonies to what it really means to end without light, or salvation.

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    Posted by Steve Huff on March 22, 2005 11:07 PM (See all posts by Steve Huff)
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    Comment 1 posted by diane barnes on March 23, 2005 08:38 AM:

    Just wondering, was Jeff Weise on any kind of anti-depressant drugs like all of the other school shooters?

    Comment 2 posted by Eric Olsen on March 23, 2005 09:05 AM:

    very intersting find Steve, thanks - the suicide rate is higher the farther north you go, Scandanavia, etc. I think it's the lack of light as well as the cold and isolation

    Comment 3 posted by Steve on March 23, 2005 03:56 PM:


    I don't know if he was on ad's or not, and personally am wary of bringing the subject up. To be frank, my life has been saved by antidepressants. I must allow for the fact that the biochemistry of a teen's brain is substantially different in many ways from a 20-something, and I didn't take the first antidepressant until I was I'm saying that for all I know the contribution of depression medication to psychopathic or just plain psychotic behavior in teens (and yes, they are very different, psychosis and psychopathy) could be real. For me, though, personally, antidepressants have just been a blessing.

    I will say this; a marked feature of many people suffering from either borderline personality disorder and some who have antisocial personality disorder - formerly known as psychopathy or sociopathy - has been noted to be depression. Nearly every serial killer ever interviewed has reported depression. So, perhaps blaming antidepressants is actually missing the point. A bigger problem may be the fear psychiatrists have of diagnosing younger folk with critical personality disorders. The book on apd (antisocial personality disorder) is that it's incurable, and docs in a position to choose won't even see a patient whom they think has it. Many psychs avoid borderlines for the same reason. Borderlines are said to have true feelings, emotions, but in a very primitive, infantile way. The problem with some of these killer kids could be a doctor who just can't bring themselves to realize they've got a juvenile psycho on their hands, and act accordingly.

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